Selected postings from the Virginia Woolf Listserv
about Reading The Waves
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- Hi,
I subscribed to this list about a week ago so:Hello to you all.
I already have a question. At this moment i'm writing a paper
about The Waves. It's a wonderful really musical book but i'm
having some problems with the focalisation. I can't always make
up who says what, it's a bit fussy in this novel. Maybe one of
you, has a better grip and can tell me the trick.
Thank you, Jaap
Jaap Drooglever
JaapDr@dds.nl
Thu, 1 Jun 2000
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- Hi Jaap,
I'm reading the Waves for the first time at the moment, but haven't
found that a problem.
Usually the name of whoever is speaking is mentioned in the first
sentence of a paragraph, and then that voice continues until
you hit an indication that now someone else is speaking, like
'said Bernard' or 'thought Jinny'.
I think it's trickier that way towards the beginning, and there's
a spot where the point of view of a situation changes very rapidly
(the bit where Jinny kisses Louis, and you see different parts
of the chain of events through different characters' eyes).
- I don't know where you're up to, but I think it gets easier
as you go along!
- Tricia
- Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 02:24:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Connie Monson <cmonson@emory.edu>
Subject: Re: Focalisation in The Waves
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- Another way of looking at it (late in the night, where I
sit) is that the "trickiness" of distinguishing one
speaker from the next is an expression of group identity in tension
with individual identity. Where you have to read twice to find
out whether Rhoda or Jinny said something, it seems that the
text draws attention to the thinnest of lines separating one's
fate from the other's. In some sense the group functions as
a single organism, even when its members are geographically distant
from one another. So in a way, Woolf is highlighting some of
the questions _behind_ the question "Who said that?"
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- always ready to complicate matters,
Connie Monson
- Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:59:32 +0200
From: Jaap Drooglever <Jaapdr@dds.nl>
Subject: focalisation in The Waves
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- Thank you Tricia, for your answer,
- Maybe you are right and the focaliser is indeed indicated
by the first name in the paragraph. But i'm having a bit of a
shaky feeling saying that. I'm uncertain by nature and most times
that pays off. The first reason of doubt is the fact that sometimes
things shift and without changing paragraph it is obvious that
the focaliser of a pasage in the middle of a paragraph is not
the one mentioned in the first line. Does that mean that the
focalisation has changed or was it in the hands of this actor
all the time? My second reason to doubt is the fact that it is
Woolf's objective in The Waves to overcome the boundraries of
the individual. I think that must have implications for the focalisation
proces. Can this shifting be the effect of Woolfs objective.
(about the question where a I up to: I'm working on that right
now in a paper for a coure called: Hearing, seeing and feeling:
modernity and sensitivity by Ernst Van Alphen)
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- Hope you can make me certain, somehow
Jaap
- Jaap Drooglever
JaapDr@dds.nl
- Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:59:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bosseaux Charlotte <charlyboss@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Focalisation in The Waves
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- Hi Jaap,
- I have read the Waves a lot of times and i remember that
the first time I read it I was a bit confused. I then realised
that all the characters always refer in their speech to things
that happen to them or specific fears and habits. Hence, as you
read you can identify the characters with special features such
as Rhoda's basins, the pools she can cross, the swallow that
dips her wings in a pool or Louis' fear of the beast that stamps
and constant stressing of his Australian accent, or Bernard's
reference to language.
- The other way i found useful is punctuation. You will notica
that Rhoda's speech is marked with columns [colons] and semi
columns [semi-colons] which refer, in my opinion to the way she
experiences the world. If you look at each speech and you should
find differences that reflect the way they all experience the
surrounding world.
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- I hope this help and that you will love this book as much
as I do,
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- Charlotte
- Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 16:12:04 -0400
From: Elisa Kay Sparks <sparks@hubcap.clemson.edu>
Subject: Re: Focalisation in The Waves
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- Dear Jaap--
- You've already received one reply explaining how Woolf signposts
the transitions from speaker to speaker in The Waves. I am attaching
a plot summary of the entire
novel worked out by me and my grad students in seminar this spring.
It tracks most of the switchoffs. Also, Mark Hussey's plot
summary in Virginia Woolf A-Z is immensely helpful.
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- Elisa Sparks
Updated: 8/17/23